My thinking has been moving in that direction for quite a long time -- 40 years? The Marine Corps has a tradition of having Lts take platoons and not enlisted. Seems the ONLY difference between a 2dLt and a StaffNCO taking a platoon is about 6 years experience. That and a SgtMajor with 23 years +/- and a 2-3 star general, the difference is about 200 conferences and meetings. There is NO freakin' reason a senior enlisted with that much experience ought be shut out of the system. The army is no better and the words I hear from the navy is the Chiefs run the boats, but the admirals give the laying on of hands. Excuse me, but it ought be the other way around. Chiefs run the freakin' navy and allow admirals to sit in those fancy assed chairs.
NO EXCUSE for Marine Officers to be so snotty with enlisted. From E-1 up they have begun a long climb and they need to be nourished along or they'll leave; the kind of O they have will be the major reason they stay or go.
There is no reason, either, for a Sgt Major, hell, even a First Sargeant to be left out of highest level conferences and meetings with the general officers. It's a shame to let someone like 1st Sgt Pat Tracey leave the MC after 22 years and go teach school to a bunch of ass wipes when he could just as easily be a Bn Cdr as an E-8 or 9. The guy has the training, experience, and the natural authority and he'd do his job very well.
I don't know if it would have made any difference, but E-5 can just as efficiently run a "staff" office -- S-1, S-2, etc. -- as wasting some O-4 in that chair. The schools the Os attend for some of those staff positions would let a kindergardner have an A for finger painting. They are boredom and ennui led with people who have no talent for teaching or leading. I was left alone in the S-1 of a MAG for days at a time and the only questions asked by others were, "When's the major coming back? We have a golf (poker, party, whatever) on Friday." I assigned young aviators to squadrons and my Cpl would type up the orders and I would sign them like a doctor and put scrawly maj USMC at the end. No one EVER questioned them.
Reminds me of the time a police officer came to me (I was a civilian retired senior volunteer with silver bars as staff) and asked if I would sign a "detention order" for a DUI in his car. I scrawled my name and put down, for the badge, 711.
He took it, they locked the bozo up, and no one ever questioned it.
Back to NCOs. They have lots more experience at E-4 and above than any O-2 and most O-3s. They could easily be appointed to staff and let run the joint.
No reason why not.Maybe due to that old time theory, college and connections make the officer -- from the old Brit "good ole boy networking." If you didn't go to Eton, then you weren't qualified to lead troops.
Well, who ever said that Psych major going through PLC was any hoot and holler better than the E-4 who just came out of combat and had time, experience, and training behind him.
Just another of my half-baked fucking opinions no one gives a shit about.
NO EXCUSE for Marine Officers to be so snotty with enlisted. From E-1 up they have begun a long climb and they need to be nourished along or they'll leave; the kind of O they have will be the major reason they stay or go.
There is no reason, either, for a Sgt Major, hell, even a First Sargeant to be left out of highest level conferences and meetings with the general officers. It's a shame to let someone like 1st Sgt Pat Tracey leave the MC after 22 years and go teach school to a bunch of ass wipes when he could just as easily be a Bn Cdr as an E-8 or 9. The guy has the training, experience, and the natural authority and he'd do his job very well.
I don't know if it would have made any difference, but E-5 can just as efficiently run a "staff" office -- S-1, S-2, etc. -- as wasting some O-4 in that chair. The schools the Os attend for some of those staff positions would let a kindergardner have an A for finger painting. They are boredom and ennui led with people who have no talent for teaching or leading. I was left alone in the S-1 of a MAG for days at a time and the only questions asked by others were, "When's the major coming back? We have a golf (poker, party, whatever) on Friday." I assigned young aviators to squadrons and my Cpl would type up the orders and I would sign them like a doctor and put scrawly maj USMC at the end. No one EVER questioned them.
Reminds me of the time a police officer came to me (I was a civilian retired senior volunteer with silver bars as staff) and asked if I would sign a "detention order" for a DUI in his car. I scrawled my name and put down, for the badge, 711.
He took it, they locked the bozo up, and no one ever questioned it.
Back to NCOs. They have lots more experience at E-4 and above than any O-2 and most O-3s. They could easily be appointed to staff and let run the joint.
No reason why not.Maybe due to that old time theory, college and connections make the officer -- from the old Brit "good ole boy networking." If you didn't go to Eton, then you weren't qualified to lead troops.
Well, who ever said that Psych major going through PLC was any hoot and holler better than the E-4 who just came out of combat and had time, experience, and training behind him.
Just another of my half-baked fucking opinions no one gives a shit about.
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